Here is your lair, you bad and naughty wolves...

Now it's all yours to try to survive

aloha every body ^^

I'm Morgoth, the Alpha Wolf.

This night, who would like you kill ? Why not Thomas ?

(Sorry for my english so bad, so pover...)

Hi everyone,

I'm (you might have guess) Elaith the Fathomless Wolf. 8)

I see that no one of us applied for the charge. Let's use this to our advantage.
Since, people would naturally think that at least one wolf applied, if we do not attack them, they will naturally turn against them sooner or later.
And with that, we should not remind them that we did not know each other before the vote.

Now, for the vote, I don't have preferences on who to eliminate. Thomas seems a good choice.

By the way, this is my first game so, if you have any hint, tell me !

Erik100 a écrit:

By the way, this is my first game so, if you have any hint, tell me !

Ok
And... welcome to "SF"

Remember that you have to write in another colour to tell me who you want to kill

You may do this until today, 9PM.

Ok. I vote against Thomas.

Ok, I think we should kill either Deass, Thomas, Moghedien, or Maléfique.
I suppose that it would make believable the two scenarios below :
1. Wolves tried to elect nxou (a wolf) and now eleminate the ennemy group.
2. Wolves were amoung those voting for Toyoraura and are now eleminating people in the same group to "innocent" Toyoraura, who is a wolf.

Ok, killing one of those above will not make the two scenarios very believable, but right now, I don't see a better option.

I will vote right now this time : I vote against Thomas

Erik, I love your way of thinking

Hello friends, I have a few questions.

Is it normal that this topic is still opened ? Will we use the same lair for the whole game ?

Kinrep : should I confronte you in public or just let your remark pass by. I don't want to bring you too much attention...
(Djoach, you can give me your opinion too)

Erik : this topic will be used for the whole game ; when it will end, I will transfer it into the main topic, so everyone will be able to read your debates. The Graveyard will also be available for everybody.

Erik100 a écrit:

Hello friends, I have a few questions.

Is it normal that this topic is still opened ? Will we use the same lair for the whole game ? Yes, It's normal, and we can speak here when we will

Kinrep : should I confronte you in public or just let your remark pass by. I don't want to bring you too much attention... You can attack me. Two possibilities :
- You say me that you haven't see that rule (My vote would be againts Deass)
- You attack me. If one is dead, so the other can be innocent. But the dead risk to be you... or me (My vote would be against you)
(I prefer the first possibility)

(Djoach, you can give me your opinion too) He's absent

I've a sensation... Deass can bluff on the Clearvoyant (his first post).

So, so...

4 Good Heroes and 3 Bad Boys (we ^^)
We kill Toyo ?
Why ? For the Leader's place ^^

Till... Can I change my vote if I would like kill an other person ?

edit : Oups... I forget the Witch...
What do we do ?

Why couldn't you, Kinrep ? Of course you can change your vote. You have until tomorrow, 9PM, to vote against someone. Before 9PM, you can change your vote as many times as you want

Oh, and Toyoraura has been replaced by Morgan. I'm going to tell it on the main topic.

Woah !
The good news is : we killed 2 heroes at once.
The bad news is : only the 3 of us voted against him, the other voting players voted against Djoach !!

And now I have 1 question : Are people supposed to vote during every day or is it normal that so many did not vote (including nxou who could have voted for Djoach to make 3 votes against 3 votes (Deass being his lover) but did not for I don't know what reason !!)

Is there a way to kill someone that could innocent Djoach ? Because right now, I don't know what we all three will say when we will get accused...

Djoach might be the first accused but if I think like a simple hero, I think this :

1. Clearly, if Moghedien, Toyoraura or Maléfique were wolves, they would have voted, I think ! If none of those three are wolves, then all that is left is Deass and Solaris (aside from us, I mean).

2. But ! Those two voted against Djoach. Therefore, it is unlikely that they voted against their friend the wolf (Djoach being right now the most suspicious).

3. Therefore, as a simple hero, I think Djoach is a wolf. Moghedien, Toyoraura, Maléfique, Deass and Solaris are not wolves. Kinrep and Erik100 must be the two other wolves (and is it not great ? they voted all three against the same person).

Note : This is not a formal proof, only a way of thinking that is pretty accurate... unless you tell me that wolves sometimes don't vote for strategical reasons or that those who did not vote will not suspect Djoach.

Now, I will think about the best way to face 5 accusations against Djoach (or against Kinrep or me). Have any idea ?

Ok, there is two ways I see to win this game, but both are risky :

1. We kill the leader (Toyoraura/Morgan), hoping one of us will be the leader after that.
This option fails if one of the following :
- Toyoraura/Morgan is Waylander, because I suppose he will kill Djoach with an arrow. (The voting period would be 3 against 2 even if we have the new leader, since the leader does not have a "double value")
- The new leader is not a wolf and they all vote against Djoach. (The voting period would be 3 against 3 but if we do not have the new leader, Djoach dies incording to the leader's wish)
In all other situations, we win :
- On a "3 against 3" situation, we would win if we get the new leader
- We would also win if they get the leader but they don't vote 3 against Djoach (for example, I get 1 vote against me, Djoach get 2 votes and we all 3 vote against, let's say, Solaris)

2. We use the Anti-Unveiling ability of Elric of Melnibone this night, therefore trying to kill two people.
This option fails if :
- We guess wrong. (The voting period would be 3 against 2 even if we have the new leader, since the leader does not have a "double value")
- We guess right and we accidently kill Waylander who then kills Djoach and the leader is not a wolf and they all vote against me or Kinrep. (The voting period would be 2 against 2 but if we do not have the new leader, Djoach dies incording to the leader's wish)
In all other situations, we win :
- I let you do the reasonning now...

If we don't try at least one of those two options (yeah, we could try both...) our only chance is that they do not vote all three against one of us...

Hum... Is there someone here ?
Well, I don't know if I will be able to come back before 9PM, so I will vote right now.

I vote against Toyoraura/Morgan.

I don't have any idea about who could be Druss, Waylander or Macros, sorry...

Ok, I agree with Djoach.

Anyone have an idea about how we could "split" the vote that will be against us on the next Day (I mean, how to make people vote 1 against me and 2 against Djoach instead of 3 against Djoach)

What I think is that Djoach and Kinrep should publicaly go against me. I will publicaly go against Djoach.
But you may have other advices.

If possible, I would like to know your opinion before we start the new Day, so I will be able to post right away as soon as I can.

Ok, another way would be Kinrep and me agaisnt Djoach (making Kinrep less suspicious after that). That would look like already 2 votes against Djoach, so maybe not everyone will vote, like last Day.

If at least 1 hero does not vote, we will kill 1 of them.

See you Tomorrow !

Sorry to don't speak that's night. I've most work

I'm OK to kill Morgan.

Does anyone want to claim to be cupid ?

Solaris a écrit:

Oh, by the way! I mentioned "counter-claiming" in my last message: basically, Maléfique is claiming to be Cupid. This means he could either be the real Cupid or a wolf claiming to be it. IF the real Cupid is NOT Maléfique, I'd prefer for him to tell me so by a Private Message, instead of going about it on the main topic. Need I remind you that the Anti-Unveiling wolf is still at large?

So yes, real Cupid: if you are not Maléfique, please tell me so by private message, as soon as possible. We'll see what we'll do together if and when you contact me.

I ask this because of one problem :
If Solaris is convinced at the end of the day that Maléfique is Cupid (because no one else claimed to be it), then Maléfique will probably be the next leader if we kill Solaris.

Now, I think that everyone will vote at the end of the day. Therefore, I think that as long as they have the leader on their side, we will lose a wolf every day.

It will do the following : Djoach to the stake (votes : 3 against 3, Day 3), Maléfique (or Solaris) killed by the wolves (the one still alive amoung them being the leader) Kinrep to the stake (votes : 2 against 2, Day 4), the leader (Solaris) killed by the last wolf.
At that point, we don't know what will happen :
1. If Solaris is the hunter, he shoots me or Moghedien, and the last alive wins.
2. If Solaris is not the hunter, he gives the leadership to me or Moghedien.
If so :
2.a If Moghedien is the leader, we lose (Erik100 to the stake, votes : 1 against 1)
2.b If I am the leader, we could think we win. But ! The hunter is not dead (neither Maléfique nor Solaris is the hunter). I kill Moghedien. Then, Moghedien shoots me, ending the game in a Draw !

Am I wrong ? Have any idea how to save you from the stake ? Should we sacrifice one of us ?

Ok, I will claim the Cupid role !

I will MP Solaris.

Such evil in only three people...

I'm quite glad to be the Leader of this game

A PM to Solaris :

Hi Kinrep,

I don't know whether you're a wolf or a villager yet, but if you're the latter, please vote Djoach now. I'm sending you this message because you said you wouldn't be able to be present for the rest of the day, so please vote Djoach now.

If you doubt me, just read the debates. I've established pretty clearly why we should vote Djoach.
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One question : I vote against who ? I want an answer before 9:20 a.m. That hour is my last and alone disponibility.
Thanks

I send a vote against Solaris.
Sorry for ma non participation for that day. I've no time (homeworks more difficult, tests, days full, ...)

Djoach, I don't know what you think about it, but you will go to stake today... If Maléfique does not vote, you could survive, but I'm sure he voted, and Solaris and Moghedien said they did.

Right now, I gained the trust of Solaris, as Cupid. Therefore, as long as he don't know who, between Kinrep and Moghedien is a wolf, he will probably give me the leadership if he dies tonight.

So, I must look clean to get the leadership. And Kinrep has to look clean too, because if Kinrep voted against Solaris, that would mean Moghedien is not a wolf. She would then be the next leader...

Therefore, I think we should do : Kinrep and Erik100 vote against Djoach. Djoach votes against Erik100.